i noticed ppl complaining about weapon ranges being to small allowing "shotgun" weapons to heavily outperform 255range canons(since 255 is about 5cm more range then 10 and can be crossed in a few seconds)

so instead of using range=N for weapon ranges range=N^root(N) with a base of 5-10

this would cause 255 weapons to have extreme ranges(artillery type weapons)(19million base5)(15k base10)
range 100 weapon(long range attak ships)(100k base5)(1.4k base10)
50 range(midrange ships)(5000 base 5)(325 base10)
<25 range(short range)(<485 base5) (<84 base10)

argument for low base:
higher range disparity between ships would make rushing into (100)longrange ships with short (<25) range ships very difficult(most hulls would be ripped apart before they ever closed in) and create a requirement for tactical play using radar jamming stealth and similar tactics

argument for high base:
lower curve between range classes(i prefer this) it would balance out better between ships making midrange and high range ships still vulnerable to rushes and combat less about range

well that my 1$ worth tell me what you think

another thing that can be required for this is fire at scouted targets commands(indirect fire), and an incresase in radar ranges using a range=N^root(N) to the basse of weapon ranges+1 making visible ranges far shorter then weapon ranges(meaning you will have to scout or put a stronger radar then weapon for long range ships

maybe ((1.2 - (lRange^1.07 / oWeapon.MaxRangeAccuracy)) * 50) for the weapon accuracy calculation
1.2 to balance out the multiplier at short ranges
^1.07 makes weapons at 1k range 1.5x less accurate and at 10k range 2x less accurate and can be adjusted for balancing

from what i saw of the code would need only 5-6 small edits to tweak it(i can read code but not write it so dont rely on me)

note, that the extention between 200 255 being double all the rest of it, cruisers, destroyers and such, which move at a rate of less then 10 speed and 1 manuver (usuals: 5 1 destoyers, and 1 1 battleships), wouldnt be able to get in range with there 200 range guns in time, which is why i suggest 255 to only be half of what im representing it as, or a third.

also a accuracy cut over range would prolly help alot. in real life, these ranges would require massive computer calculations (not the computers we are using, computers that the spaceships use)

also, from what we have learned about optimum accuracy of ship weapons target hull/10= 99% baseline accuracy or something. so yeah, add a -% for long range, and you prolly have it balanced out.

also consider using the following ratios for multiplication

leaving 50 range as it is, multiply it by the following for when it reaches teh following milestones:
100 150 200 255 -range equivalent
x5 x8 x12 x15 - "balanced" concept for range pacing
x3 x6 x9 x12 - base by x3 interval

omg.. Fight some wars first... then change combat.. lol!

Do you even know @ what range a ship will shoot?
Is it Visual range?
Is it Detection range?
Is it different in space vs a planet?

Did you know in space Left and Right arc are reversed?

Did you know planets Wrap the X-Y so you can shoot a colony in the lower left - from the upper right?

i asume crushy has fought some wars, personaly i dont like war.
what im talking about is making the system more usefull(for no better word for it)
atm 255 weapon range is 10cm on the screen, while costing 500x more then 10 weapon range(1/2cm) making long range ships fundamentaly usless since the cost increase is tremendous and a drain on armor/engine/weapon count/shielding with no noticable advantages to promote its use.

ofc i know a back mounted canon works well with a big engine and 255 range radar atm but those ships are unarmored and low dps(and you can only run so far...)

a ship will fire when a target is in range of its weapons max range.
yes it is different from planetary to space, because of resizing that occurs.

no i did not know that left and right are reversed. why is that?

yes, but i didnt know it shot mirriored upside down.


jsut throwing around ideas right now. no need to rush into them, i looked at what would happen with the range alterations suggested here, no one even has acecss to 255 range yet, so wait and see how things roll